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Grok-4 Heavy vs Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8 Max leads the LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 40.7.

xAI · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Qwen3.8 Max leads the overall LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 40.7, ranking #11 overall.

The models split the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models evenly.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Grok-4 Heavy

  • you are already invested in the xAI ecosystem

Choose Qwen3.8 Max

  • overall performance matters — it scores 51.9 and ranks #11 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning and coding — it leads those capability indexes
  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
40.7
#54
51.9
#11
39.0
#57
50.6
#11
17.7
#114
39.6
#14
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
1 of 2
1 of 2
Input price
— / M
$1.65 / M
Output price
— / M
$4.95 / M
Context window
256,000

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

1 shared
Index
Grok-4 Heavy
Qwen3.8 Max
41.5#6
33.8#52
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

6 reported for Grok-4 Heavy · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max

2 shared

Grok-4 Heavy outperforms in 1 benchmarks (Humanity's Last Exam), while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 1 benchmark (GPQA).

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

Mon Sep 14 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies input context (256,000 tokens). Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies output context (256,000 tokens).

xAI
Grok-4 Heavy
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8 Max
Input256,000 tokens
Output256,000 tokens
Mon Sep 14 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Both Grok-4 Heavy and Qwen3.8 Max support multimodal inputs.

They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.

Grok-4 Heavy

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3.8 Max

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Grok-4 Heavy is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Grok-4 Heavy

Proprietary

Closed source

Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8-Max License

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02, while Grok-4 Heavy's release date is not specified.

We can confirm Qwen3.8 Max's release timeline, but cannot make a direct age comparison without Grok-4 Heavy's release date.

Grok-4 Heavy

Qwen3.8 Max

Aug 2, 2026

1 months ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Grok-4 Heavy has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2024-12-31, while Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm Grok-4 Heavy's training data extends to 2024-12-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date.

Grok-4 Heavy

Dec 2024

Qwen3.8 Max

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Grok-4 Heavy and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Grok-4 Heavy
✓ Preferred
Qwen3.8 Max
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FAQ

Common questions about Grok-4 Heavy vs Qwen3.8 Max.

Which is better, Grok-4 Heavy or Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max leads the LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 40.7. Grok-4 Heavy is made by xAI and Qwen3.8 Max is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Grok-4 Heavy compare to Qwen3.8 Max in benchmarks?

Grok-4 Heavy scores AIME 2025: 100.0%, HMMT25: 96.7%, GPQA: 88.4%, LiveCodeBench: 79.4%, USAMO25: 61.9%. Qwen3.8 Max scores PaperBench: 93.0%, MRCR v2 (8-needle): 92.9%, GPQA: 92.6%, VideoMME w sub.: 90.4%, RealWorldQA: 88.0%.

What are the context window sizes for Grok-4 Heavy and Qwen3.8 Max?

Grok-4 Heavy supports an unknown number of tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 256K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Grok-4 Heavy and Qwen3.8 Max?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (40.7 vs 51.9), licensing (Proprietary vs Qwen3.8-Max License). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Grok-4 Heavy and Qwen3.8 Max?

Grok-4 Heavy is developed by xAI and Qwen3.8 Max is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.