Phi 4 Mini Reasoning vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max leads the LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 7.2.
Microsoft · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026
Which is better?
Qwen3.8 Max leads the overall LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 7.2, ranking #11 overall.
In the 1 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen3.8 Max wins 1; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.
Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.
Choose Phi 4 Mini Reasoning
- you are already invested in the Microsoft ecosystem
Choose Qwen3.8 Max
- overall performance matters — it scores 51.9 and ranks #11 on LLM Stats
- your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
- you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 1 of 1 exact shared results
- you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2026
At a glance
The differences that matter most.
Individual benchmarks
3 reported for Phi 4 Mini Reasoning · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max
Phi 4 Mini Reasoning outperforms in 0 benchmarks, while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 1 benchmark (GPQA).
Qwen3.8 Max significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.
Human preference
Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores
Model Size
Parameter count comparison
Qwen3.8 Max has 2396.2B more parameters than Phi 4 Mini Reasoning, making it 63057.9% larger.
Context Window
Maximum input and output token capacity
Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies input context (256,000 tokens). Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies output context (256,000 tokens).
Input capabilities
Documented input modalities across available providers
Qwen3.8 Max supports multimodal inputs, whereas Phi 4 Mini Reasoning does not.
Qwen3.8 Max can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.
Phi 4 Mini Reasoning
Qwen3.8 Max
License
Usage and distribution terms
Phi 4 Mini Reasoning is licensed under MIT, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.
License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.
MIT
Open weights
Qwen3.8-Max License
Open weights
Release Timeline
When each model was launched
Phi 4 Mini Reasoning was released on 2025-04-30, while Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02.
Qwen3.8 Max is 15 months newer than Phi 4 Mini Reasoning.
Apr 30, 2025
1.4 years ago
Aug 2, 2026
1 months ago
1.3yr newerKnowledge Cutoff
When training data ends
Phi 4 Mini Reasoning has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2025-02-01, while Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date is not specified.
We can confirm Phi 4 Mini Reasoning's training data extends to 2025-02-01, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date.
Feb 2025
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Outputs Comparison
Judge for yourself.
Run your own prompts against Phi 4 Mini Reasoning and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.
FAQ
Common questions about Phi 4 Mini Reasoning vs Qwen3.8 Max.