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Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3.8-27B

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

Nous Research · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Hermes 3 70B outperforms in 1 benchmarks (IFBench), while Qwen3.8-27B is better at 1 benchmark (GPQA). Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

Based on current benchmark, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Hermes 3 70B

  • you want predictable pricing at $0.35/M input and $1.40/M output

Choose Qwen3.8-27B

  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2026

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Hermes 3 70B
Nous Research
Qwen3.8-27B
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Benchmark wins
1 of 2
1 of 2
Input price
$0.35 / M
— / M
Output price
$1.40 / M
— / M
Context window
131,072
—
Released
Aug 2024
Aug 2026
License
Apache 2.0
Apache 2.0

Performance Benchmarks

Comparative analysis across standard metrics

2 benchmarks

Hermes 3 70B outperforms in 1 benchmarks (IFBench), while Qwen3.8-27B is better at 1 benchmark (GPQA).

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

Mon Aug 24 2026 • llm-stats.com

Arena Performance

Playground indexes and blind preference scores

Model Size

Parameter count comparison

42.2B diff

Hermes 3 70B has 42.2B more parameters than Qwen3.8-27B, making it 152.0% larger.

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
70.0Bparameters
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8-27B
27.8Bparameters
70.0B
Hermes 3 70B
27.8B
Qwen3.8-27B

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Hermes 3 70B specifies input context (131,072 tokens). Only Hermes 3 70B specifies output context (16,384 tokens).

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input131,072 tokens
Output16,384 tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8-27B
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Mon Aug 24 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input Capabilities

Supported data types and modalities

Qwen3.8-27B supports multimodal inputs, whereas Hermes 3 70B does not.

Qwen3.8-27B can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.

Hermes 3 70B

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3.8-27B

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Both models are licensed under Apache 2.0.

Both models share the same licensing terms, providing consistent usage rights.

Hermes 3 70B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Qwen3.8-27B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15, while Qwen3.8-27B was released on 2026-08-14.

Qwen3.8-27B is 24 months newer than Hermes 3 70B.

Hermes 3 70B

Aug 15, 2024

2.0 years ago

Qwen3.8-27B

Aug 14, 2026

1 weeks ago

2.0yr newer

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-27B side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Hermes 3 70B
✓ Preferred
Qwen3.8-27B
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FAQ

Common questions about Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3.8-27B.

Which is better, Hermes 3 70B or Qwen3.8-27B?

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks. Hermes 3 70B is made by Nous Research and Qwen3.8-27B is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their benchmark scores, pricing, and capabilities above.

How does Hermes 3 70B compare to Qwen3.8-27B in benchmarks?

Hermes 3 70B scores MT-Bench: 89.9%, HellaSwag: 88.2%, BoolQ: 88.0%, PIQA: 84.4%, Winogrande: 83.2%. Qwen3.8-27B scores MathVision: 94.6%, OmniDocBench 1.5: 91.1%, LiveCodeBench v6: 90.3%, CharXiv-R: 90.2%, GPQA: 89.2%.

What are the context window sizes for Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-27B?

Hermes 3 70B supports 131K tokens and Qwen3.8-27B supports an unknown number of tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-27B?

Key differences include multimodal support (no vs yes). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-27B?

Hermes 3 70B is developed by Nous Research and Qwen3.8-27B is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.

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