Model Comparison
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct vs Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 shows notably better performance in the majority of benchmarks. Llama 3.1 405B Instruct is 1.1x cheaper per token.
Performance Benchmarks
Comparative analysis across standard metrics
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct outperforms in 1 benchmarks (IFEval), while Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is better at 2 benchmarks (GPQA, MMLU-Pro).
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 shows notably better performance in the majority of benchmarks.
Arena Performance
Human preference votes
Pricing Analysis
Price comparison per million tokens
For input processing, Llama 3.1 405B Instruct ($0.89/1M tokens) is 3.0x more expensive than Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 ($0.30/1M tokens).
For output processing, Llama 3.1 405B Instruct ($0.89/1M tokens) is 3.4x cheaper than Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 ($3.00/1M tokens).
In conclusion, Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is more expensive than Llama 3.1 405B Instruct.*
* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens
Model Size
Parameter count comparison
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct has 170.0B more parameters than Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507, making it 72.3% larger.
Context Window
Maximum input and output token capacity
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 accepts 262,144 input tokens compared to Llama 3.1 405B Instruct's 128,000 tokens. Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 can generate longer responses up to 131,072 tokens, while Llama 3.1 405B Instruct is limited to 128,000 tokens.
License
Usage and distribution terms
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct is licensed under Llama 3.1 Community License, while Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 uses Apache 2.0.
License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.
Llama 3.1 Community License
Open weights
Apache 2.0
Open weights
Release Timeline
When each model was launched
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct was released on 2024-07-23, while Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 was released on 2025-07-25.
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is 12 months newer than Llama 3.1 405B Instruct.
Jul 23, 2024
1.8 years ago
Jul 25, 2025
9 months ago
1.0yr newerKnowledge Cutoff
When training data ends
Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.
Unable to compare the recency of their training data.
Provider Availability
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct is available from Lambda, DeepInfra, Fireworks, Bedrock, Together, Hyperbolic, Google, Replicate. Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is available from Fireworks, Novita.
Llama 3.1 405B Instruct
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
Outputs Comparison
Key Takeaways
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
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Detailed Comparison
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FAQ
Common questions about Llama 3.1 405B Instruct vs Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507