o4-mini vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max leads the LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 27.5. o4-mini is 1.3x cheaper per token.
OpenAI · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026
Which is better?
Qwen3.8 Max leads the overall LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 27.5, ranking #11 overall.
In the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen3.8 Max wins 2; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.
On price, o4-mini is roughly 1.3x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.
Qwen3.8 Max also accepts a larger context window (256,000 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.
Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.
Choose o4-mini
- cost matters — it's about 1.3x cheaper per token
Choose Qwen3.8 Max
- overall performance matters — it scores 51.9 and ranks #11 on LLM Stats
- your work emphasizes reasoning and coding — it leads those capability indexes
- you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 2 of 2 exact shared results
- you process long inputs — it offers a 256,000 token context window
- you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2026
- you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune
At a glance
The differences that matter most.
Capability indexes
Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks
Individual benchmarks
14 reported for o4-mini · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max
o4-mini outperforms in 0 benchmarks, while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 2 benchmarks (GPQA, Humanity's Last Exam).
Qwen3.8 Max significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.
Human preference
Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores
Pricing Analysis
Price comparison per million tokens
For input processing, o4-mini ($1.10/1M tokens) is 1.5x cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max ($1.65/1M tokens).
For output processing, o4-mini ($4.40/1M tokens) is 1.1x cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max ($4.95/1M tokens).
In conclusion, Qwen3.8 Max is more expensive than o4-mini.*
* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens
Context Window
Maximum input and output token capacity
Qwen3.8 Max accepts 256,000 input tokens compared to o4-mini's 200,000 tokens. Qwen3.8 Max can generate longer responses up to 256,000 tokens, while o4-mini is limited to 100,000 tokens.
Input capabilities
Documented input modalities across available providers
Both o4-mini and Qwen3.8 Max support multimodal inputs.
They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.
o4-mini
Qwen3.8 Max
License
Usage and distribution terms
o4-mini is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.
License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.
Proprietary
Closed source
Qwen3.8-Max License
Open weights
Release Timeline
When each model was launched
o4-mini was released on 2025-04-16, while Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02.
Qwen3.8 Max is 16 months newer than o4-mini.
Apr 16, 2025
1.4 years ago
Aug 2, 2026
1 months ago
1.3yr newerKnowledge Cutoff
When training data ends
o4-mini has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2024-05-31, while Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date is not specified.
We can confirm o4-mini's training data extends to 2024-05-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date.
May 2024
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Provider Availability
o4-mini is available from OpenAI. Qwen3.8 Max is available from DeepInfra, Fireworks, Novita, Together.
o4-mini
Qwen3.8 Max
Outputs Comparison
Judge for yourself.
Run your own prompts against o4-mini and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.
FAQ
Common questions about o4-mini vs Qwen3.8 Max.