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Phi 4 Reasoning vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct are closely matched at 12.3 and 12.5 on the LLM Stats Score.

Microsoft · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct are closely matched on the overall LLM Stats Score at 12.3 and 12.5.

In the 5 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen2.5 72B Instruct wins 3; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Phi 4 Reasoning

  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Apr 2025

Choose Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

  • you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 3 of 5 exact shared results

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
12.3
#242
12.5
#239
12.8
#230
12.6
#233
6.5
#182
9.3
#167
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
2 of 5
3 of 5
Input price
— / M
$0.35 / M
Output price
— / M
$0.40 / M
Context window
131,072

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

1 shared
Index
Phi 4 Reasoning
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
13.9#215
18.4#172
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

11 reported for Phi 4 Reasoning · 14 for Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

5 shared

Phi 4 Reasoning outperforms in 2 benchmarks (GPQA, MMLU-Pro), while Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is better at 3 benchmarks (Arena Hard, IFEval, LiveCodeBench).

Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has a slight edge in benchmark performance.

Fri Sep 04 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Model Size

Parameter count comparison

58.7B diff

Qwen2.5 72B Instruct has 58.7B more parameters than Phi 4 Reasoning, making it 419.3% larger.

Microsoft
Phi 4 Reasoning
14.0Bparameters
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
72.7Bparameters
14.0B
Phi 4 Reasoning
72.7B
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Qwen2.5 72B Instruct specifies input context (131,072 tokens). Only Qwen2.5 72B Instruct specifies output context (8,192 tokens).

Microsoft
Phi 4 Reasoning
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
Input131,072 tokens
Output8,192 tokens
Fri Sep 04 2026 • llm-stats.com

License

Usage and distribution terms

Phi 4 Reasoning is licensed under MIT, while Qwen2.5 72B Instruct uses Qwen.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Phi 4 Reasoning

MIT

Open weights

Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

Qwen

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Phi 4 Reasoning was released on 2025-04-30, while Qwen2.5 72B Instruct was released on 2024-09-19.

Phi 4 Reasoning is 7 months newer than Qwen2.5 72B Instruct.

Phi 4 Reasoning

Apr 30, 2025

1.3 years ago

7mo newer
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

Sep 19, 2024

2.0 years ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Phi 4 Reasoning has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2025-03-01, while Qwen2.5 72B Instruct's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm Phi 4 Reasoning's training data extends to 2025-03-01, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen2.5 72B Instruct's cutoff date.

Phi 4 Reasoning

Mar 2025

Qwen2.5 72B Instruct

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Phi 4 Reasoning
✓ Preferred
Qwen2.5 72B Instruct
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FAQ

Common questions about Phi 4 Reasoning vs Qwen2.5 72B Instruct.

Which is better, Phi 4 Reasoning or Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?

Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct are closely matched on the LLM Stats Score at 12.3 and 12.5. Phi 4 Reasoning is made by Microsoft and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Phi 4 Reasoning compare to Qwen2.5 72B Instruct in benchmarks?

Phi 4 Reasoning scores FlenQA: 97.7%, HumanEval+: 92.9%, IFEval: 83.4%, OmniMath: 76.6%, AIME 2024: 75.3%. Qwen2.5 72B Instruct scores GSM8k: 95.8%, MT-Bench: 93.5%, MBPP: 88.2%, MMLU-Redux: 86.8%, HumanEval: 86.6%.

What are the context window sizes for Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?

Phi 4 Reasoning supports an unknown number of tokens and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct supports 131K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (12.3 vs 12.5), licensing (MIT vs Qwen). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Phi 4 Reasoning and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct?

Phi 4 Reasoning is developed by Microsoft and Qwen2.5 72B Instruct is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.