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DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 vs Hermes 3 70B

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 leads the LLM Stats Score 51.2 to 3.6. DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is 1.3x cheaper per token.

DeepSeek · Nous Research · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 leads the overall LLM Stats Score 51.2 to 3.6, ranking #15 overall.

On price, DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is roughly 1.3x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 also accepts a larger context window (1,048,576 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

  • overall performance matters — it scores 51.2 and ranks #15 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
  • cost matters — it's about 1.3x cheaper per token
  • you process long inputs — it offers a 1,048,576 token context window
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Oct 2026

Choose Hermes 3 70B

  • you want predictable pricing at $0.70/M input and $0.70/M output

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
DeepSeek
Hermes 3 70B
Nous Research
Core performance indexes
LLM Stats Score
51.2
#15
3.6
#330
Reasoning
48.8
#18
0.8
#339
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
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Input price
$0.30 / M
$0.70 / M
Output price
$1.20 / M
$0.70 / M
Context window
1,048,576
131,072

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

1 shared
Index
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
Hermes 3 70B
Math
31.8#69
-1.1#314
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

11 reported for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 · 17 for Hermes 3 70B

No common benchmarks found

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 and Hermes 3 70Bdon't have any common benchmark datasets to compare. They may have been evaluated on different testing suites.

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Pricing Analysis

Price comparison per million tokens

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 costs less

For input processing, DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 ($0.30/1M tokens) is 2.3x cheaper than Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens).

For output processing, DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 ($1.20/1M tokens) is 1.7x more expensive than Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens).

In conclusion, Hermes 3 70B is more expensive than DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017.*

* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens

Lowest available price from all providers
Fri Oct 23 2026 • llm-stats.com
DeepSeek
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
Input tokens$0.30
Output tokens$1.20
Best providerDeepSeek
Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input tokens$0.70
Output tokens$0.70
Best providerDeepinfra
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Model Size

Parameter count comparison

693.2B diff

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 has 693.2B more parameters than Hermes 3 70B, making it 990.3% larger.

DeepSeek
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
763.2Bparameters
Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
70.0Bparameters
763.2B
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
70.0B
Hermes 3 70B

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 accepts 1,048,576 input tokens compared to Hermes 3 70B's 131,072 tokens. DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 can generate longer responses up to 393,216 tokens, while Hermes 3 70B is limited to 131,072 tokens.

DeepSeek
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
Input1,048,576 tokens
Output393,216 tokens
Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input131,072 tokens
Output131,072 tokens
Fri Oct 23 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 supports multimodal inputs, whereas Hermes 3 70B does not.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Hermes 3 70B

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is licensed under MIT, while Hermes 3 70B uses Apache 2.0.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

MIT

Open weights

Hermes 3 70B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 was released on 2026-10-17, while Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is 26 months newer than Hermes 3 70B.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

Oct 17, 2026

2 days ago

2.2yr newer
Hermes 3 70B

Aug 15, 2024

2.2 years ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Provider Availability

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is available from DeepSeek. Hermes 3 70B is available from DeepInfra.

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

deepseek logo
DeepSeek
Input Price:Input: $0.30/1MOutput Price:Output: $1.20/1M

Hermes 3 70B

deepinfra logo
Deepinfra
Input Price:Input: $0.70/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.70/1M
* Prices shown are per million tokens

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 and Hermes 3 70B side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

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FAQ

Common questions about DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 vs Hermes 3 70B.

Which is better, DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 or Hermes 3 70B?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 leads the LLM Stats Score 51.2 to 3.6. DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is made by DeepSeek and Hermes 3 70B is made by Nous Research. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 compare to Hermes 3 70B in benchmarks?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 scores BabyVision: 92.5%, Chartography: 83.0%, DeepSWE 1.1: 77.0%, NL2Repo: 68.2%, AutomationBench: 60.5%. Hermes 3 70B scores MT-Bench: 89.9%, HellaSwag: 88.2%, BoolQ: 88.0%, PIQA: 84.4%, Winogrande: 83.2%.

Is DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 cheaper than Hermes 3 70B?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is 2.3x cheaper for input tokens. DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 costs $0.30/M input and $1.20/M output via deepseek. Hermes 3 70B costs $0.70/M input and $0.70/M output via deepinfra.

What are the context window sizes for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 and Hermes 3 70B?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 supports 1.0M tokens and Hermes 3 70B supports 131K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 and Hermes 3 70B?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (51.2 vs 3.6), context window (1.0M vs 131K), input pricing ($0.30 vs $0.70/M), multimodal support (yes vs no), licensing (MIT vs Apache 2.0). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 and Hermes 3 70B?

DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017 is developed by DeepSeek and Hermes 3 70B is developed by Nous Research.

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