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Hermes 3 70B vs Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

Hermes 3 70B leads the LLM Stats Score 4.0 to -2.6. Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is 31.1x cheaper per token.

Nous Research · Meta · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Hermes 3 70B leads the overall LLM Stats Score 4.0 to -2.6, ranking #320 overall.

The models split the 4 individual benchmarks reported for both models evenly.

On price, Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is roughly 31.1x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Hermes 3 70B

  • overall performance matters — it scores 4.0 and ranks #320 on LLM Stats
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2024

Choose Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

  • cost matters — it's about 31.1x cheaper per token

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
4.0
#320
-2.6
#355
1.3
#329
-3.6
#353
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
2 of 4
2 of 4
Input price
$0.70 / M
$0.02 / M
Output price
$0.70 / M
$0.03 / M
Context window
131,072
131,072

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

3 shared
Index
Hermes 3 70B
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
-1.1#307
-2.5#317
3.2#182
-3.0#209
4.3#166
-3.0#196
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

17 reported for Hermes 3 70B · 18 for Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

4 shared

Hermes 3 70B outperforms in 2 benchmarks (GPQA, MMLU), while Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is better at 2 benchmarks (ARC-C, MMLU-Pro).

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

Thu Oct 08 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Pricing Analysis

Price comparison per million tokens

Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs less

For input processing, Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens) is 35.0x more expensive than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct ($0.02/1M tokens).

For output processing, Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens) is 23.3x more expensive than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct ($0.03/1M tokens).

In conclusion, Hermes 3 70B is more expensive than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct.*

* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens

Lowest available price from all providers
Thu Oct 08 2026 • llm-stats.com
Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input tokens$0.70
Output tokens$0.70
Best providerDeepinfra
Meta
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
Input tokens$0.02
Output tokens$0.03
Best providerDeepinfra
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Model Size

Parameter count comparison

62.0B diff

Hermes 3 70B has 62.0B more parameters than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct, making it 775.0% larger.

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
70.0Bparameters
Meta
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
8.0Bparameters
70.0B
Hermes 3 70B
8.0B
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Both models have the same input context window of 131,072 tokens. Both models can generate responses up to 131,072 tokens.

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input131,072 tokens
Output131,072 tokens
Meta
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
Input131,072 tokens
Output131,072 tokens
Thu Oct 08 2026 • llm-stats.com

License

Usage and distribution terms

Hermes 3 70B is licensed under Apache 2.0, while Llama 3.1 8B Instruct uses Llama 3.1 Community License.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Hermes 3 70B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

Llama 3.1 Community License

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15, while Llama 3.1 8B Instruct was released on 2024-07-23.

Hermes 3 70B is 1 month newer than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct.

Hermes 3 70B

Aug 15, 2024

2.1 years ago

3w newer
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

Jul 23, 2024

2.2 years ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Llama 3.1 8B Instruct has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2023-12-31, while Hermes 3 70B's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm Llama 3.1 8B Instruct's training data extends to 2023-12-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Hermes 3 70B's cutoff date.

Hermes 3 70B

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Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

Dec 2023

Provider Availability

Hermes 3 70B is available from DeepInfra. Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is available from DeepInfra, Lambda, Groq, Sambanova, Cerebras, Hyperbolic, Together, Fireworks, Bedrock.

Hermes 3 70B

deepinfra logo
Deepinfra
Input Price:Input: $0.70/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.70/1M

Llama 3.1 8B Instruct

deepinfra logo
Deepinfra
Input Price:Input: $0.02/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.04/1M
lambda logo
Lambda
Input Price:Input: $0.03/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.03/1M
groq logo
Groq
Input Price:Input: $0.05/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.08/1M
sambanova logo
Sambanova
Input Price:Input: $0.10/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.20/1M
cerebras logo
Cerebras
Input Price:Input: $0.10/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.10/1M
hyperbolic logo
Hyperbolic
Input Price:Input: $0.10/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.10/1M
together logo
Together
Input Price:Input: $0.20/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.20/1M
fireworks logo
Fireworks
Input Price:Input: $0.20/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.20/1M
bedrock logo
AWS Bedrock
Input Price:Input: $0.22/1MOutput Price:Output: $0.22/1M
* Prices shown are per million tokens

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Hermes 3 70B and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Hermes 3 70B
✓ Preferred
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
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FAQ

Common questions about Hermes 3 70B vs Llama 3.1 8B Instruct.

Which is better, Hermes 3 70B or Llama 3.1 8B Instruct?

Hermes 3 70B leads the LLM Stats Score 4.0 to -2.6. Hermes 3 70B is made by Nous Research and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is made by Meta. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Hermes 3 70B compare to Llama 3.1 8B Instruct in benchmarks?

Hermes 3 70B scores MT-Bench: 89.9%, HellaSwag: 88.2%, BoolQ: 88.0%, PIQA: 84.4%, Winogrande: 83.2%. Llama 3.1 8B Instruct scores GSM-8K (CoT): 84.5%, ARC-C: 83.4%, API-Bank: 82.6%, IFEval: 80.4%, BFCL: 76.1%.

Is Hermes 3 70B cheaper than Llama 3.1 8B Instruct?

Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is 35.0x cheaper for input tokens. Hermes 3 70B costs $0.70/M input and $0.70/M output via deepinfra. Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs $0.02/M input and $0.03/M output via deepinfra.

What are the context window sizes for Hermes 3 70B and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct?

Hermes 3 70B supports 131K tokens and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct supports 131K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Hermes 3 70B and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (4.0 vs -2.6), input pricing ($0.70 vs $0.02/M), licensing (Apache 2.0 vs Llama 3.1 Community License). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Hermes 3 70B and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct?

Hermes 3 70B is developed by Nous Research and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct is developed by Meta.