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Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber vs Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the LLM Stats Score 42.4 to 22.3.

Google · NVIDIA · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the overall LLM Stats Score 42.4 to 22.3, ranking #46 overall.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

  • overall performance matters — it scores 42.4 and ranks #46 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes coding and agents — it leads those capability indexes
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2026

Choose Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)

  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
42.4
#46
22.3
#169
35.6
#25
8.6
#173
31.2
#27
7.3
#131
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
Input price
— / M
$0.05 / M
Output price
— / M
$0.20 / M
Context window
262,144

Individual benchmarks

4 reported for Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber · 13 for Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)

No common benchmarks found

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)don't have any common benchmark datasets to compare. They may have been evaluated on different testing suites.

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) specifies input context (262,144 tokens). Only Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) specifies output context (262,144 tokens).

Google
Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
NVIDIA
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)
Input262,144 tokens
Output262,144 tokens
Fri Sep 04 2026 • llm-stats.com

License

Usage and distribution terms

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is licensed under a proprietary license, while Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) uses OpenMDW License v1.1.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

Proprietary

Closed source

Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)

OpenMDW License v1.1

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber was released on 2026-09-02, while Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) was released on 2026-08-11.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is 1 month newer than Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B).

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

Sep 2, 2026

2 days ago

3w newer
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)

Aug 11, 2026

3 weeks ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber
✓ Preferred
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)
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FAQ

Common questions about Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber vs Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B).

Which is better, Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber or Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the LLM Stats Score 42.4 to 22.3. Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is made by Google and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) is made by NVIDIA. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber compare to Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) in benchmarks?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber scores Gray Swan IPI Benchmark: 94.0%, CyberGym: 86.2%, Google Real-world Vulnerability Discovery: 71.0%, CWE-Bench: 47.2%. Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) scores PinchBench: 85.4%, MMLU-Pro: 81.9%, GPQA: 75.4%, IFBench: 71.9%, AA-LCR: 52.0%.

What are the context window sizes for Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber supports an unknown number of tokens and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) supports 262K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (42.4 vs 22.3), licensing (Proprietary vs OpenMDW License v1.1). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B)?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is developed by Google and Nemotron 3.5 Lightning (30B A3B) is developed by NVIDIA.