Grok-4 vs Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max leads the LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 33.7. Qwen3.8 Max is 2.4x cheaper per token.
xAI · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026
Which is better?
Qwen3.8 Max leads the overall LLM Stats Score 51.9 to 33.7, ranking #11 overall.
In the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen3.8 Max wins 2; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.
On price, Qwen3.8 Max is roughly 2.4x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.
Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.
Choose Grok-4
- you want predictable pricing at $3.00/M input and $15.00/M output
Choose Qwen3.8 Max
- overall performance matters — it scores 51.9 and ranks #11 on LLM Stats
- your work emphasizes reasoning and coding — it leads those capability indexes
- you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 2 of 2 exact shared results
- cost matters — it's about 2.4x cheaper per token
- you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2026
- you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune
At a glance
The differences that matter most.
Capability indexes
Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks
Individual benchmarks
7 reported for Grok-4 · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max
Grok-4 outperforms in 0 benchmarks, while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 2 benchmarks (GPQA, Humanity's Last Exam).
Qwen3.8 Max significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.
Human preference
Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores
Pricing Analysis
Price comparison per million tokens
For input processing, Grok-4 ($3.00/1M tokens) is 1.8x more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max ($1.65/1M tokens).
For output processing, Grok-4 ($15.00/1M tokens) is 3.0x more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max ($4.95/1M tokens).
In conclusion, Grok-4 is more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max.*
* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens
Context Window
Maximum input and output token capacity
Both models have the same input context window of 256,000 tokens. Qwen3.8 Max can generate longer responses up to 256,000 tokens, while Grok-4 is limited to 8,000 tokens.
Input capabilities
Documented input modalities across available providers
Both Grok-4 and Qwen3.8 Max support multimodal inputs.
They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.
Grok-4
Qwen3.8 Max
License
Usage and distribution terms
Grok-4 is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.
License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.
Proprietary
Closed source
Qwen3.8-Max License
Open weights
Release Timeline
When each model was launched
Grok-4 was released on 2025-07-09, while Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02.
Qwen3.8 Max is 13 months newer than Grok-4.
Jul 9, 2025
1.2 years ago
Aug 2, 2026
1 months ago
1.1yr newerKnowledge Cutoff
When training data ends
Grok-4 has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2024-12-31, while Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date is not specified.
We can confirm Grok-4's training data extends to 2024-12-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen3.8 Max's cutoff date.
Dec 2024
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Provider Availability
Grok-4 is available from xAI. Qwen3.8 Max is available from DeepInfra, Fireworks, Novita, Together.
Grok-4
Qwen3.8 Max
Outputs Comparison
Judge for yourself.
Run your own prompts against Grok-4 and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.
FAQ
Common questions about Grok-4 vs Qwen3.8 Max.