Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 leads the LLM Stats Score 28.1 to 4.0. Hermes 3 70B is 1.4x cheaper per token.
Nous Research · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026
Which is better?
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 leads the overall LLM Stats Score 28.1 to 4.0, ranking #136 overall.
In the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 wins 2; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.
On price, Hermes 3 70B is roughly 1.4x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 also accepts a larger context window (262,144 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.
Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.
Choose Hermes 3 70B
- cost matters — it's about 1.4x cheaper per token
Choose Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
- overall performance matters — it scores 28.1 and ranks #136 on LLM Stats
- your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
- you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 2 of 2 exact shared results
- you process long inputs — it offers a 262,144 token context window
- you want the most recent training data — it shipped Jul 2025
At a glance
The differences that matter most.
Capability indexes
Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks
Individual benchmarks
17 reported for Hermes 3 70B · 25 for Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
Hermes 3 70B outperforms in 0 benchmarks, while Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is better at 2 benchmarks (GPQA, MMLU-Pro).
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.
Human preference
Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores
Pricing Analysis
Price comparison per million tokens
For input processing, Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens) is 2.3x more expensive than Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 ($0.30/1M tokens).
For output processing, Hermes 3 70B ($0.70/1M tokens) is 4.3x cheaper than Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 ($3.00/1M tokens).
In conclusion, Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is more expensive than Hermes 3 70B.*
* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens
Model Size
Parameter count comparison
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 has 165.0B more parameters than Hermes 3 70B, making it 235.7% larger.
Context Window
Maximum input and output token capacity
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 accepts 262,144 input tokens compared to Hermes 3 70B's 131,072 tokens. Both models can generate responses up to 131,072 tokens.
License
Usage and distribution terms
Both models are licensed under Apache 2.0.
Both models share the same licensing terms, providing consistent usage rights.
Apache 2.0
Open weights
Apache 2.0
Open weights
Release Timeline
When each model was launched
Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15, while Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 was released on 2025-07-25.
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is 11 months newer than Hermes 3 70B.
Aug 15, 2024
2.1 years ago
Jul 25, 2025
1.2 years ago
11mo newerKnowledge Cutoff
When training data ends
Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.
Unable to compare the recency of their training data.
Provider Availability
Hermes 3 70B is available from DeepInfra. Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 is available from Fireworks, Novita.
Hermes 3 70B
Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507
Outputs Comparison
Judge for yourself.
Run your own prompts against Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507 side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.
FAQ
Common questions about Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3-235B-A22B-Thinking-2507.