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o4-mini vs Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

o4-mini leads the LLM Stats Score 27.7 to 16.3. Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is 2.9x cheaper per token.

OpenAI · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

o4-mini leads the overall LLM Stats Score 27.7 to 16.3, ranking #132 overall.

In the 3 individual benchmarks reported for both models, o4-mini wins 3; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.

On price, Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is roughly 2.9x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking also accepts a larger context window (262,144 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose o4-mini

  • overall performance matters — it scores 27.7 and ranks #132 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
  • you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 3 of 3 exact shared results

Choose Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

  • cost matters — it's about 2.9x cheaper per token
  • you process long inputs — it offers a 262,144 token context window
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2025
  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
27.7
#132
16.3
#212
27.8
#124
17.2
#200
7.8
#128
5.1
#138
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
3 of 3
0 of 3
Input price
$1.10 / M
$0.18 / M
Output price
$4.40 / M
$2.09 / M
Context window
200,000
262,144

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

4 shared
Index
o4-mini
Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking
27.8#91
19.1#165
16.1#84
11.4#107
12.3#57
13.0#55
22.3#57
14.2#92
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

14 reported for o4-mini · 50 for Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

3 shared

o4-mini outperforms in 3 benchmarks (AIME 2025, CharXiv-R, GPQA), while Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is better at 0 benchmarks.

o4-mini significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.

Mon Sep 07 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Pricing Analysis

Price comparison per million tokens

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking costs less

For input processing, o4-mini ($1.10/1M tokens) is 6.1x more expensive than Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking ($0.18/1M tokens).

For output processing, o4-mini ($4.40/1M tokens) is 2.1x more expensive than Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking ($2.09/1M tokens).

In conclusion, o4-mini is more expensive than Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking.*

* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens

Lowest available price from all providers
Mon Sep 07 2026 • llm-stats.com
OpenAI
o4-mini
Input tokens$1.10
Output tokens$4.40
Best providerOpenAI
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking
Input tokens$0.18
Output tokens$2.09
Best providerDeepinfra
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Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking accepts 262,144 input tokens compared to o4-mini's 200,000 tokens. Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking can generate longer responses up to 262,144 tokens, while o4-mini is limited to 100,000 tokens.

OpenAI
o4-mini
Input200,000 tokens
Output100,000 tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking
Input262,144 tokens
Output262,144 tokens
Mon Sep 07 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Both o4-mini and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking support multimodal inputs.

They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.

o4-mini

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

o4-mini is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking uses Apache 2.0.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

o4-mini

Proprietary

Closed source

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

o4-mini was released on 2025-04-16, while Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking was released on 2025-09-22.

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is 5 months newer than o4-mini.

o4-mini

Apr 16, 2025

1.4 years ago

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

Sep 22, 2025

11 months ago

5mo newer

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

o4-mini has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2024-05-31, while Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm o4-mini's training data extends to 2024-05-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking's cutoff date.

o4-mini

May 2024

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

Provider Availability

o4-mini is available from OpenAI. Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is available from DeepInfra.

o4-mini

openai logo
OpenAI
Input Price:Input: $1.10/1MOutput Price:Output: $4.40/1M

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking

deepinfra logo
Deepinfra
Input Price:Input: $0.18/1MOutput Price:Output: $2.09/1M
* Prices shown are per million tokens

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against o4-mini and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

o4-mini
✓ Preferred
Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking
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FAQ

Common questions about o4-mini vs Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking.

Which is better, o4-mini or Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking?

o4-mini leads the LLM Stats Score 27.7 to 16.3. o4-mini is made by OpenAI and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does o4-mini compare to Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking in benchmarks?

o4-mini scores AIME 2024: 93.4%, AIME 2025: 92.7%, MathVista: 84.3%, MMMU: 81.6%, GPQA: 81.4%. Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking scores DocVQAtest: 95.3%, ScreenSpot: 93.6%, MMLU-Redux: 88.8%, MMBench-V1.1: 87.5%, InfoVQAtest: 86.0%.

Is o4-mini cheaper than Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking?

Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is 6.1x cheaper for input tokens. o4-mini costs $1.10/M input and $4.40/M output via openai. Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking costs $0.18/M input and $2.09/M output via deepinfra.

What are the context window sizes for o4-mini and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking?

o4-mini supports 200K tokens and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking supports 262K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between o4-mini and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (27.7 vs 16.3), context window (200K vs 262K), input pricing ($1.10 vs $0.18/M), licensing (Proprietary vs Apache 2.0). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes o4-mini and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking?

o4-mini is developed by OpenAI and Qwen3 VL 8B Thinking is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.