Ember-1 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash

Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash are closely matched at 42.3 and 49.0 on the LLM Stats Score. Gemini 3.8 Flash is 4.0x cheaper per token.

Fireworks AI · Google · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash are closely matched on the overall LLM Stats Score at 42.3 and 49.0.

The models split the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models evenly.

On price, Gemini 3.8 Flash is roughly 4.0x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.

Gemini 3.8 Flash also accepts a larger context window (1,048,576 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Ember-1

you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2026

Choose Gemini 3.8 Flash

cost matters — it's about 4.0x cheaper per token
you process long inputs — it offers a 1,048,576 token context window

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Better token value: Gemini 3.8 Flash

Core performance indexes

LLM Stats Score

42.3

#65 · 4 evals

49.0

#26 · 14 evals

Best

Reasoning

38.7

#77 · 3 evals

46.5

#30 · 10 evals

Best

Coding

35.9

#28 · 3 evals

Best

34.3

#35 · 3 evals

Agents

28.6

#55 · 2 evals

33.9

#30 · 8 evals

Best

Cost, coverage & limits

Benchmark wins

1 of 2

Input price

$3.00 / M

$0.75 / M

Best

Output price

$15.00 / M

$3.75 / M

Best

Context window

1,040,000

1,048,576

Best

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

1 shared

Index

Ember-1

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Tool use

16.1#98 · 2 evals

23.0#49 · 2 evals

Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

4 reported for Ember-1 · 13 for Gemini 3.8 Flash

2 shared

Ember-1 outperforms in 1 benchmarks (DeepSWE 1.1), while Gemini 3.8 Flash is better at 1 benchmark (Terminal-Bench 2.1).

Both models are evenly matched across the benchmarks.

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Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Pricing Analysis

Price comparison per million tokens

Gemini 3.8 Flash costs less

For input processing, Ember-1 ($3.00/1M tokens) is 4.0x more expensive than Gemini 3.8 Flash ($0.75/1M tokens).

For output processing, Ember-1 ($15.00/1M tokens) is 4.0x more expensive than Gemini 3.8 Flash ($3.75/1M tokens).

In conclusion, Ember-1 is more expensive than Gemini 3.8 Flash.*

* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens

Lowest available price from all providers

Thu Oct 22 2026 • llm-stats.com

Ember-1

Input tokens$3.00

Output tokens$15.00

Best providerFireworks

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Input tokens$0.75

Output tokens$3.75

Best providerGoogle

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Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Gemini 3.8 Flash accepts 1,048,576 input tokens compared to Ember-1's 1,040,000 tokens. Only Gemini 3.8 Flash specifies output context (65,536 tokens).

Ember-1

Input1,040,000 tokens

Output- tokens

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Input1,048,576 tokens

Output65,536 tokens

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Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Gemini 3.8 Flash supports multimodal inputs, whereas Ember-1 does not.

Gemini 3.8 Flash can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.

Ember-1

Text

Images

Audio

Video

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Text

Images

Audio

Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Both models are licensed under proprietary licenses.

Both models have usage restrictions defined by their respective organizations.

Ember-1

Proprietary

Closed source

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Proprietary

Closed source

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Ember-1 was released on 2026-09-23, while Gemini 3.8 Flash was released on 2026-09-02.

Ember-1 is 1 month newer than Gemini 3.8 Flash.

Ember-1

Sep 23, 2026

3 weeks ago

3w newer

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Sep 2, 2026

1 months ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Gemini 3.8 Flash has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2026-03-31, while Ember-1's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm Gemini 3.8 Flash's training data extends to 2026-03-31, but cannot make a direct comparison without Ember-1's cutoff date.

Ember-1

—

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Mar 2026

Provider Availability

Ember-1 is available from Fireworks. Gemini 3.8 Flash is available from Google.

Ember-1

Fireworks

Input Price:Input: $3.00/1MOutput Price:Output: $15.00/1M

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Google

Input Price:Input: $0.75/1MOutput Price:Output: $3.75/1M

* Prices shown are per million tokens

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Ember-1

✓ Preferred

Gemini 3.8 Flash

Open in Playground

FAQ

Common questions about Ember-1 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash.

Which is better, Ember-1 or Gemini 3.8 Flash?

Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash are closely matched on the LLM Stats Score at 42.3 and 49.0. Ember-1 is made by Fireworks AI and Gemini 3.8 Flash is made by Google. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Ember-1 compare to Gemini 3.8 Flash in benchmarks?

Ember-1 scores SWE-Bench Verified: 92.2%, Terminal-Bench 2.1: 82.0%, DeepSWE 1.1: 75.2%, Tau2 Airline: 66.0%. Gemini 3.8 Flash scores Terminal-Bench 2.1: 89.4%, LVBench: 87.1%, CharXiv-R: 86.2%, LABBench2: 86.2%, DeepSWE 1.1: 73.7%.

Is Ember-1 cheaper than Gemini 3.8 Flash?

Gemini 3.8 Flash is 4.0x cheaper for input tokens. Ember-1 costs $3.00/M input and $15.00/M output via fireworks. Gemini 3.8 Flash costs $0.75/M input and $3.75/M output via google.

What are the context window sizes for Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash?

Ember-1 supports 1.0M tokens and Gemini 3.8 Flash supports 1.0M tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (42.3 vs 49.0), context window (1.0M vs 1.0M), input pricing ($3.00 vs $0.75/M), multimodal support (no vs yes). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Ember-1 and Gemini 3.8 Flash?

Ember-1 is developed by Fireworks AI and Gemini 3.8 Flash is developed by Google.

Ember-1 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash