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Ember-1 vs Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

Ember-1 leads the LLM Stats Score 43.6 to 14.3.

Fireworks AI · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Ember-1 leads the overall LLM Stats Score 43.6 to 14.3, ranking #46 overall.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Ember-1

  • overall performance matters — it scores 43.6 and ranks #46 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2026

Choose Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
43.6
#46
14.3
#252
38.6
#70
11.6
#267
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
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Input price
$3.00 / M
— / M
Output price
$15.00 / M
— / M
Context window
1,040,000
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Individual benchmarks

4 reported for Ember-1 · 15 for Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

No common benchmarks found

Ember-1 and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instructdon't have any common benchmark datasets to compare. They may have been evaluated on different testing suites.

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Model Size

Parameter count comparison

2706.6B diff

Ember-1 has 2706.6B more parameters than Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct, making it 3687.5% larger.

Fireworks AI
Ember-1
2.8Tparameters
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct
73.4Bparameters
2780.0B
Ember-1
73.4B
Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Ember-1 specifies input context (1,040,000 tokens).

Fireworks AI
Ember-1
Input1,040,000 tokens
Output- tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Wed Oct 07 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct supports multimodal inputs, whereas Ember-1 does not.

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.

Ember-1

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Ember-1 is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct uses tongyi-qianwen.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Ember-1

Proprietary

Closed source

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

tongyi-qianwen

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Ember-1 was released on 2026-09-23, while Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct was released on 2024-08-29.

Ember-1 is 25 months newer than Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct.

Ember-1

Sep 23, 2026

2 weeks ago

2.1yr newer
Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

Aug 29, 2024

2.1 years ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct has a documented knowledge cutoff of 2023-06-30, while Ember-1's cutoff date is not specified.

We can confirm Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct's training data extends to 2023-06-30, but cannot make a direct comparison without Ember-1's cutoff date.

Ember-1

—

Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct

Jun 2023

Outputs Comparison

Notice missing or incorrect data?

Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Ember-1 and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Ember-1
✓ Preferred
Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct
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FAQ

Common questions about Ember-1 vs Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct.

Which is better, Ember-1 or Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct?

Ember-1 leads the LLM Stats Score 43.6 to 14.3. Ember-1 is made by Fireworks AI and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Ember-1 compare to Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct in benchmarks?

Ember-1 scores SWE-Bench Verified: 92.2%, Terminal-Bench 2.1: 82.0%, DeepSWE 1.1: 75.2%, Tau2 Airline: 66.0%. Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct scores DocVQAtest: 96.5%, VCR_en_easy: 91.9%, ChartQA: 88.3%, OCRBench: 87.7%, MMBench: 86.5%.

What are the context window sizes for Ember-1 and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct?

Ember-1 supports 1.0M tokens and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct supports an unknown number of tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Ember-1 and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (43.6 vs 14.3), multimodal support (no vs yes), licensing (Proprietary vs tongyi-qianwen). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Ember-1 and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct?

Ember-1 is developed by Fireworks AI and Qwen2-VL-72B-Instruct is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.