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Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber vs Hermes 3 70B

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the LLM Stats Score 42.3 to 4.1.

Google · Nous Research · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the overall LLM Stats Score 42.3 to 4.1, ranking #46 overall.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

  • overall performance matters — it scores 42.3 and ranks #46 on LLM Stats
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2026

Choose Hermes 3 70B

  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber
Google
Hermes 3 70B
Nous Research
Core performance indexes
LLM Stats Score
42.3
#46
4.1
#302
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
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Input price
— / M
$0.70 / M
Output price
— / M
$0.70 / M
Context window
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131,072

Individual benchmarks

4 reported for Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber · 17 for Hermes 3 70B

No common benchmarks found

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Hermes 3 70Bdon't have any common benchmark datasets to compare. They may have been evaluated on different testing suites.

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Hermes 3 70B specifies input context (131,072 tokens). Only Hermes 3 70B specifies output context (131,072 tokens).

Google
Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input131,072 tokens
Output131,072 tokens
Tue Sep 08 2026 • llm-stats.com

License

Usage and distribution terms

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is licensed under a proprietary license, while Hermes 3 70B uses Apache 2.0.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

Proprietary

Closed source

Hermes 3 70B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber was released on 2026-09-02, while Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is 25 months newer than Hermes 3 70B.

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber

Sep 2, 2026

6 days ago

2.0yr newer
Hermes 3 70B

Aug 15, 2024

2.1 years ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Outputs Comparison

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Run your own prompts against Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Hermes 3 70B side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

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FAQ

Common questions about Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber vs Hermes 3 70B.

Which is better, Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber or Hermes 3 70B?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber leads the LLM Stats Score 42.3 to 4.1. Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is made by Google and Hermes 3 70B is made by Nous Research. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber compare to Hermes 3 70B in benchmarks?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber scores Gray Swan IPI Benchmark: 94.0%, CyberGym: 86.2%, Google Real-world Vulnerability Discovery: 71.0%, CWE-Bench: 47.2%. Hermes 3 70B scores MT-Bench: 89.9%, HellaSwag: 88.2%, BoolQ: 88.0%, PIQA: 84.4%, Winogrande: 83.2%.

What are the context window sizes for Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Hermes 3 70B?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber supports an unknown number of tokens and Hermes 3 70B supports 131K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Hermes 3 70B?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (42.3 vs 4.1), licensing (Proprietary vs Apache 2.0). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber and Hermes 3 70B?

Gemini 3.8 Flash Cyber is developed by Google and Hermes 3 70B is developed by Nous Research.

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