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Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max

Gemini 4 Argon leads the LLM Stats Score 55.1 to 50.7. Qwen3.8 Max is 1.6x cheaper per token.

Google · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Gemini 4 Argon leads the overall LLM Stats Score 55.1 to 50.7, ranking #4 overall.

In the 4 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Gemini 4 Argon wins 3; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.

On price, Qwen3.8 Max is roughly 1.6x cheaper per token on a blended 3:1 input/output basis, which adds up quickly at production volume.

Gemini 4 Argon also accepts a larger context window (1,048,576 input tokens), making it the stronger choice for long documents and large codebases.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Gemini 4 Argon

  • overall performance matters — it scores 55.1 and ranks #4 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes agents — it leads those capability indexes
  • you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 3 of 4 exact shared results
  • you process long inputs — it offers a 1,048,576 token context window
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Sep 2026

Choose Qwen3.8 Max

  • cost matters — it's about 1.6x cheaper per token
  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Gemini 4 Argon
Google
Qwen3.8 Max
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Core performance indexes
LLM Stats Score
55.1
#4
50.7
#17
Reasoning
53.2
#6
49.7
#16
Coding
42.5
#7
37.1
#25
Agents
41.2
#4
35.7
#23
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
3 of 4
1 of 4
Input price
$2.00 / M
$1.65 / M
Output price
$10.00 / M
$4.95 / M
Context window
1,048,576
256,000

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

4 shared
Index
Gemini 4 Argon
Qwen3.8 Max
Vision
37.2#8
37.8#7
Tool use
32.3#4
29.5#15
Long context
30.6#3
28.6#8
Multimodal
37.2#7
38.8#3
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

19 reported for Gemini 4 Argon · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max

4 shared

Gemini 4 Argon outperforms in 3 benchmarks (AutomationBench, DeepSWE 1.1, LVBench), while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 1 benchmark (Agents' Last Exam).

Gemini 4 Argon shows notably better performance in the majority of benchmarks.

Sat Oct 24 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Pricing Analysis

Price comparison per million tokens

Qwen3.8 Max costs less

For input processing, Gemini 4 Argon ($2.00/1M tokens) is 1.2x more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max ($1.65/1M tokens).

For output processing, Gemini 4 Argon ($10.00/1M tokens) is 2.0x more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max ($4.95/1M tokens).

In conclusion, Gemini 4 Argon is more expensive than Qwen3.8 Max.*

* Using a 3:1 ratio of input to output tokens

Lowest available price from all providers
Sat Oct 24 2026 • llm-stats.com
Google
Gemini 4 Argon
Input tokens$2.00
Output tokens$10.00
Best providerGoogle
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8 Max
Input tokens$1.65
Output tokens$4.95
Best providerDeepinfra
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Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Gemini 4 Argon accepts 1,048,576 input tokens compared to Qwen3.8 Max's 256,000 tokens. Gemini 4 Argon can generate longer responses up to 1,048,576 tokens, while Qwen3.8 Max is limited to 256,000 tokens.

Google
Gemini 4 Argon
Input1,048,576 tokens
Output1,048,576 tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8 Max
Input256,000 tokens
Output256,000 tokens
Sat Oct 24 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Both Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max support multimodal inputs.

They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.

Gemini 4 Argon

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3.8 Max

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Gemini 4 Argon is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Gemini 4 Argon

Proprietary

Closed source

Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8-Max License

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Gemini 4 Argon was released on 2026-09-30, while Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02.

Gemini 4 Argon is 2 months newer than Qwen3.8 Max.

Gemini 4 Argon

Sep 30, 2026

3 weeks ago

1mo newer
Qwen3.8 Max

Aug 2, 2026

2 months ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Provider Availability

Gemini 4 Argon is available from Google. Qwen3.8 Max is available from DeepInfra, Fireworks, Novita, Together.

Gemini 4 Argon

google logo
Google
Input Price:Input: $2.00/1MOutput Price:Output: $10.00/1M

Qwen3.8 Max

deepinfra logo
Deepinfra
Input Price:Input: $1.65/1MOutput Price:Output: $4.95/1M
fireworks logo
Fireworks
Input Price:Input: $2.00/1MOutput Price:Output: $6.00/1M
novita logo
Novita
Input Price:Input: $2.00/1MOutput Price:Output: $6.00/1M
together logo
Together
Input Price:Input: $2.50/1MOutput Price:Output: $6.25/1M
* Prices shown are per million tokens

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Gemini 4 Argon
✓ Preferred
Qwen3.8 Max
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FAQ

Common questions about Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Max.

Which is better, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Argon leads the LLM Stats Score 55.1 to 50.7. Gemini 4 Argon is made by Google and Qwen3.8 Max is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Gemini 4 Argon compare to Qwen3.8 Max in benchmarks?

Gemini 4 Argon scores Graphwalks BFS <128k: 99.7%, Vibe Code Bench: 91.9%, LVBench: 91.7%, LABBench2: 88.8%, Graphwalks BFS >128k: 84.2%. Qwen3.8 Max scores PaperBench: 93.0%, MRCR v2 (8-needle): 92.9%, GPQA: 92.6%, VideoMME w sub.: 90.4%, RealWorldQA: 88.0%.

Is Gemini 4 Argon cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max is 1.2x cheaper for input tokens. Gemini 4 Argon costs $2.00/M input and $10.00/M output via google. Qwen3.8 Max costs $1.65/M input and $4.95/M output via deepinfra.

What are the context window sizes for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Argon supports 1.0M tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 256K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (55.1 vs 50.7), context window (1.0M vs 256K), input pricing ($2.00 vs $1.65/M), licensing (Proprietary vs Qwen3.8-Max License). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Argon is developed by Google and Qwen3.8 Max is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.

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