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Gemini 4 Carbon vs Qwen3.8 Max

Gemini 4 Carbon leads the LLM Stats Score 58.7 to 50.3.

Google · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Gemini 4 Carbon leads the overall LLM Stats Score 58.7 to 50.3, ranking #2 overall.

In the 1 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Gemini 4 Carbon wins 1; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Gemini 4 Carbon

  • overall performance matters — it scores 58.7 and ranks #2 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning and coding — it leads those capability indexes
  • you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 1 of 1 exact shared results
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Oct 2026

Choose Qwen3.8 Max

  • you need open weights you can self-host or fine-tune

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Gemini 4 Carbon
Google
Qwen3.8 Max
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Core performance indexes
LLM Stats Score
58.7
#2
50.3
#19
Reasoning
54.3
#5
49.3
#17
Coding
48.2
#3
37.7
#29
Agents
45.7
#1
35.8
#26
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
1 of 1
0 of 1
Input price
— / M
$1.65 / M
Output price
— / M
$4.95 / M
Context window
—
256,000

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

3 shared
Index
Gemini 4 Carbon
Qwen3.8 Max
Vision
36.0#14
37.7#8
Tool use
35.4#3
29.3#24
Multimodal
37.9#6
38.1#5
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

16 reported for Gemini 4 Carbon · 42 for Qwen3.8 Max

1 shared

Gemini 4 Carbon outperforms in 1 benchmarks (AutomationBench), while Qwen3.8 Max is better at 0 benchmarks.

Gemini 4 Carbon significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.

Sun Nov 08 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies input context (256,000 tokens). Only Qwen3.8 Max specifies output context (256,000 tokens).

Google
Gemini 4 Carbon
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8 Max
Input256,000 tokens
Output256,000 tokens
Sun Nov 08 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Both Gemini 4 Carbon and Qwen3.8 Max support multimodal inputs.

They are both capable of processing various types of data, offering versatility in application.

Gemini 4 Carbon

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3.8 Max

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Gemini 4 Carbon is licensed under a proprietary license, while Qwen3.8 Max uses Qwen3.8-Max License.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Gemini 4 Carbon

Proprietary

Closed source

Qwen3.8 Max

Qwen3.8-Max License

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Gemini 4 Carbon was released on 2026-10-28, while Qwen3.8 Max was released on 2026-08-02.

Gemini 4 Carbon is 3 months newer than Qwen3.8 Max.

Gemini 4 Carbon

Oct 28, 2026

1 weeks ago

2mo newer
Qwen3.8 Max

Aug 2, 2026

3 months ago

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Outputs Comparison

Notice missing or incorrect data?

Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Gemini 4 Carbon and Qwen3.8 Max side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Gemini 4 Carbon
✓ Preferred
Qwen3.8 Max
Open in Playground

FAQ

Common questions about Gemini 4 Carbon vs Qwen3.8 Max.

Which is better, Gemini 4 Carbon or Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Carbon leads the LLM Stats Score 58.7 to 50.3. Gemini 4 Carbon is made by Google and Qwen3.8 Max is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Gemini 4 Carbon compare to Qwen3.8 Max in benchmarks?

Gemini 4 Carbon scores Gray Swan IPI Benchmark: 100.0%, Vending-Bench 2: 100.0%, Graphwalks BFS >128k: 96.2%, WebDev Arena: 88.4%, SEC-bench Pro: 88.2%. Qwen3.8 Max scores PaperBench: 93.0%, MRCR v2 (8-needle): 92.9%, GPQA: 92.6%, VideoMME w sub.: 90.4%, RealWorldQA: 88.0%.

What are the context window sizes for Gemini 4 Carbon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Carbon supports an unknown number of tokens and Qwen3.8 Max supports 256K tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Gemini 4 Carbon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (58.7 vs 50.3), licensing (Proprietary vs Qwen3.8-Max License). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Gemini 4 Carbon and Qwen3.8 Max?

Gemini 4 Carbon is developed by Google and Qwen3.8 Max is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.

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