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Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next leads the LLM Stats Score 49.7 to 3.9.

Nous Research · Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team · Updated for 2026

Which is better?

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next leads the overall LLM Stats Score 49.7 to 3.9, ranking #15 overall.

In the 2 individual benchmarks reported for both models, Qwen3.8-Flash-Next wins 2; this is a narrower head-to-head signal than the composite indexes.

Based on current LLM Stats indexes, shared benchmarks, pricing, and model metadata for 2026.

Choose Hermes 3 70B

  • you want predictable pricing at $0.35/M input and $1.40/M output

Choose Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

  • overall performance matters — it scores 49.7 and ranks #15 on LLM Stats
  • your work emphasizes reasoning — it leads those capability indexes
  • you value its reported benchmark strengths — it wins 2 of 2 exact shared results
  • you want the most recent training data — it shipped Aug 2026

At a glance

The differences that matter most.

Core performance indexes
3.9
#289
49.7
#15
1.0
#298
49.3
#15
Cost, coverage & limits
Benchmark wins
0 of 2
2 of 2
Input price
$0.35 / M
— / M
Output price
$1.40 / M
— / M
Context window
131,072

Capability indexes

Additional strengths measured across groups of related public benchmarks

1 shared
Index
Hermes 3 70B
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
-0.6#289
32.7#54
Conservative TrueSkill rating · higher is betterHow scores work

Individual benchmarks

17 reported for Hermes 3 70B · 22 for Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

2 shared

Hermes 3 70B outperforms in 0 benchmarks, while Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is better at 2 benchmarks (GPQA, IFBench).

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next significantly outperforms across most benchmarks.

Mon Aug 31 2026 • llm-stats.com

Human preference

Blind head-to-head votes and playground preference scores

Model Size

Parameter count comparison

55.0B diff

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next has 55.0B more parameters than Hermes 3 70B, making it 78.6% larger.

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
70.0Bparameters
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
125.0Bparameters
70.0B
Hermes 3 70B
125.0B
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

Context Window

Maximum input and output token capacity

Only Hermes 3 70B specifies input context (131,072 tokens). Only Hermes 3 70B specifies output context (16,384 tokens).

Nous Research
Hermes 3 70B
Input131,072 tokens
Output16,384 tokens
Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
Input- tokens
Output- tokens
Mon Aug 31 2026 • llm-stats.com

Input capabilities

Documented input modalities across available providers

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next supports multimodal inputs, whereas Hermes 3 70B does not.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next can handle both text and other forms of data like images, making it suitable for multimodal applications.

Hermes 3 70B

Text
Images
Audio
Video

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

Text
Images
Audio
Video

License

Usage and distribution terms

Hermes 3 70B is licensed under Apache 2.0, while Qwen3.8-Flash-Next uses Qwen Community License 1.0.

License differences may affect how you can use these models in commercial or open-source projects.

Hermes 3 70B

Apache 2.0

Open weights

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

Qwen Community License 1.0

Open weights

Release Timeline

When each model was launched

Hermes 3 70B was released on 2024-08-15, while Qwen3.8-Flash-Next was released on 2026-08-26.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is 25 months newer than Hermes 3 70B.

Hermes 3 70B

Aug 15, 2024

2.0 years ago

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

Aug 26, 2026

5 days ago

2.0yr newer

Knowledge Cutoff

When training data ends

Neither model specifies a knowledge cutoff date.

Unable to compare the recency of their training data.

No cutoff dates available

Outputs Comparison

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Judge for yourself.

Run your own prompts against Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next side-by-side, then vote on the output you prefer.

Hermes 3 70B
✓ Preferred
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
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FAQ

Common questions about Hermes 3 70B vs Qwen3.8-Flash-Next.

Which is better, Hermes 3 70B or Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next leads the LLM Stats Score 49.7 to 3.9. Hermes 3 70B is made by Nous Research and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is made by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team. The best choice depends on your use case — compare their capability indexes, individual benchmarks, pricing, and limits above.

How does Hermes 3 70B compare to Qwen3.8-Flash-Next in benchmarks?

Hermes 3 70B scores MT-Bench: 89.9%, HellaSwag: 88.2%, BoolQ: 88.0%, PIQA: 84.4%, Winogrande: 83.2%. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next scores MathVision: 95.7%, LiveCodeBench v6: 91.9%, GPQA: 91.7%, CharXiv-R: 90.6%, RealWorldQA: 88.5%.

What are the context window sizes for Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Hermes 3 70B supports 131K tokens and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next supports an unknown number of tokens. A larger context window lets you process longer documents, conversations, or codebases in a single request.

What are the main differences between Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Key differences include LLM Stats Score (3.9 vs 49.7), multimodal support (no vs yes), licensing (Apache 2.0 vs Qwen Community License 1.0). See the full comparison above for benchmark-by-benchmark results.

Who makes Hermes 3 70B and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Hermes 3 70B is developed by Nous Research and Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is developed by Alibaba Cloud / Qwen Team.